Earlier this week at Webster Hall I, and everyone enrolled in a summer course at NYU, saw a rap show featuring Wiz Khalifa, Green Street and Corleone.
Text by Nick Graham
Posted on July 17, 2009
I'm going to attribute last night's NYU-ization to Green Street. The Boston-bred true school rap group is comprised of rapper A-Live and producer Renaissance. They both live in New York now, and they must sell pot out of their dorm room or something because they had millions of kids there, getting all crazy for them at 9:00 on a Tuesday. A good part of that hype was due to A-Live's steady crowd work, as he constantly kept folks in the crowd engaged. They were backed by a live band and that seemed to go over well with the crowd, too. You can download Green Street's mixtape Chess Moves at their website, and you should definitely just download it for free because they were selling the CD at the show for five hundred dollars.
Before Green Street went on, the DJ played Asher Roth's "I Love College" and people revolted, booing and screaming for the DJ to turn it off. I thought to myself, if a room full of college kids seeing hip hop hate "I Love College" so much, what hope does Asher Roth have of maintaining a career?
The highlight of Corleone's set was bringing A-Live back up on stage for a feature. The main problem with Corleone, and most rap groups at their level that I see around town, is how incredibly safe they play it. They were capable rappers and their beats were solid, but there was never a weird beat, never a vocal change in rhythm or tone, no clever lines, no surprises.
Wiz Khalifa was a pro and had tons of energy the whole night and was able to move and rap at the same time, which is rare in hip hop. His set was short but solid, featuring a whole bunch of heaters from his mixtape Flight School, including, "Boarding Pass", "Shame", "Sky High", "Teach U to Fly" and the a cappella track "Wassup". It was crazy because I saw a lot of people in the crowd who knew every line Wiz rapped. On a personal note, Wiz Khalifa is the skinniest human to ever live. I thought I was watching The Machinist.
It occured to me while watching the show that I have Flight School but never posted it for some reason, so please take it upon yourselves to download the tape now because it is really one of the most solid mixtapes to come out in a while.
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[audio:http://www.imposemagazine.com/photos/2009/07/04-4-shame.mp3]
Download Flight School here.
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This is dabbs from Corleone. First of all I would like to say that whoever posted under the name "whoa" doesnt speak for us. We have had a problem with a stalker recentlya and we even have had to hire a security guard after a recent break in at our home. I hope that the author of the article would be gracious enough to remove that post because we at Corleone do not wish to be associated with those kind of thoughts or actions. Second I wanna say that I'm dissapointed in "I Was There". Not because of their opinion about the music that night but because of the personal attacks in their review. Comments like "I was laughing at A-Live most of the show for how incredibly corny he was and the fact that he obviously would sell his soul to wake up black" are unecessary. It was a concert, not a judgement on character and therefore you should keep your comments to things which are music-related. Fact of the matter is that whatever job "I was There" has could be easily done by us while I doubt that he/she would even have the guts to get up on stage period. You can't do what we do and I think I can speak on behalf of both Green Street and ourselves when it comes to this. It's very easy to critisize from a distance. Lastly, I felt that Green Street really did their thing that night. Their music is honestly very good and the only problem they face is upgrading their recording equipement so that their songs sound professional. Other than that, they epitomize what NY hip hop is meant to me. As for us at Corleone, we were the first to admit that our performance that night was the worst that we had ever done. Shit happens ad you learn from it, but fact of the matter is that people in the game think highly enough of us to ask that we be their opening act. Let's make this clear: we are not begging big names to open for their shows, they are contacting us. We will be opening for Pitbull and Fabolous in the month of Octobeer. So while we may have been sub par that night, maybe you should withold your final judgement until you see a consistent and long term body of work. Nevertheless there will always be haters even when us artists feel we put on the perfect show. I'm willing to guess "I was There" is nothing more than a frustrated individual who either tried to do something with music and failed or wishes he/she had a shred of musical talent. Either way this person needs an outlet for this frustration. Keep hating. It's what motivates us all. Big ups to Green Street. Im sure thats not the last show we will be doing together. And Nick Graham, as a graduate from Boston University with a degree in journalism I respect what you do. I just hope you get the opportunity to cover us again and we get the chance to change your opinion. Thats enough typing for me for one day. I'm out. p.s. a reminder about the upcomming shows: October 18th, opening for Pitbull in Allentown, PA October 24, opening for fabolous in Lebanon, PA Be there!
— Dabbs of Corleone on September 02, 2009
Honestly this is a terrible review. I was there, front row. Corleone was beyond terrible. Half the crowd was facing the other way, they messed up and had to start a song over, and rely so heavily on auto tune that they sounded retarded up there. They had someone up on stage who clearly didn't know the words trying to rap along and it was just awkward. The song that they came out to featured the "clever" lyrics "Im harder than a brick wall, and ill bite your fucking lips off. That was the chorus. Terrible Awful. Every punchline was corny. I went to their page, their songs sound so amateur and unoriginal. They are awful. Just because you open for someone with talent doesn't mean you're good. I was at a Lupe show last year and the opening act got booed off the stage. Corleone gets 8 thumbs down. Wiz had good energy, and is a great performer. However, his actual musical ability is limited. He's doing his thing and making money so more power to him, and heputs on a great show but every song revolves around money and weed. On a talent scale he's about a 3/10. Green Street tore the house down with sub par music. MOre power to them. I was laughing at A-Live most of the show for how incredibly corny he was and the fact that he obviously would sell his soul to wake up black but outside of that at least their music has some substance despite it not being too great. Their drummer is disgusting, I'll give them that. Their whole band is talented, matter of fact. Lyrically, corny and limited in skill, with a good message. That's a 100% real unbiased review from someone with a front row, sitting on the stage view.
— I was there on August 27, 2009
Ryan I did go and listen to songs at those links and went to their website (http://www.corleonemusicproductions.com/) and I will say that their music is beautifully recorded and the chorus for the song "Star Power", now that I can hear it better, is awesome. But it doesn't change my opinion of the show. And yeah man, like what you're going to like. If that line does it for you then great, but my job is to tell you what I think, not what 70,000 people on myspace think. Critics dislike all kinds of music that have way more than 70,000 listeners. No critic liked the new U2 album, and I bet it's because it sucks, but I bet they still sold a ton of copies. That doesn't make the music better to those critics or people who don't like the album. So what im saying is FUCCKCKKKKKKKKK U2!!!!
— nick graham on July 19, 2009
I feel like Lil Wayne's lunchroom cleverness has lowered the overall standard of creativity in rap if "stranger to a strangler" is a dope line. I mean how does a simple letter change cause anger? that shit makes no sense, it's just a bar about the difference in spelling. I'm sure they thought they were on to something next level, but truthfully I don't need spelling lessons. I'm an adult. "Get Sum" by Wiz is pretty dope. Will be checking for this kid.
— blake on July 18, 2009
And to add to thia...are we talking cleverness or are we talking in terms of deep, philosophical lyrics? Those are two very different things. In "I Wanna Start A Fire" when Dabbs says...I'm a V-A-M-P-I-R-E and y'all gon feel my bite, right?...that's clever, at least to me it is. And the comment about Lil Wayne and his type of music is getting old. Stop hating. Lil Wayne is who he is and he makes music that people wanna hear, which, when it comes down to it is all that matters right?
— Ryan on July 18, 2009
Corleone have some of the best lyrics out there. I think the problem was the quality of gear, it was hard to hear and muffled. http://www.myspace.com/dee412 http://www.myspace.com/dabbs305 Listen to the tracks for a better take on the music
— DG on July 18, 2009
I didn't like them though, so that's what I wrote. And that line isn't clever at all. But of course, I wish them the best and hope they keep going well on their way. And if you think that beat is rap on acid then you need to listen to more rap.
— nick graham on July 18, 2009
Nick I hope you clicked on the links that DG posted. Both Dabbs and Dee have over 70,000 plays on most of their songs. Plus DG is right about the quality of the equipment. Green Street held it down and gave a great performance but how many of their lines could you hear clearly? Their excitment was generated from A-Live's presence and ability to win over the crowd. A-Live and Green Street did their thing but if you take a close listen to Corleone's lyrics by clicking those links you'll realize you were off about ur comment in regards to their lyrical content. Even in songs where they're completely goofing off their lyrics are clever. And I disagree about the stranger to strangler lyric. It shows the thin line that we walk everyday of our lives and the uncertainty of not knowing whether or not the next person you pass on the street could lead to ur demise. Their lyrics are that deep when they want them to be. Take a closer listen
— Ryan on July 18, 2009
And to add on, I don't give a fuck who they opened for. My opinion of the music is supposed to change because they opened for someone with a name? Pittsburgh Slim got co-signed hard by Jay Z and i would rather eat glass than listen to his album again. Who a group opened for is irrelevant when taking in their music and live show.
— nick graham on July 18, 2009
"The main problem with Corleone, and most rap groups at their level that I see around town, is how incredibly safe they play it. They were capable rappers and their beats were solid, but there was never a weird beat, never a vocal change in rhythm or tone, no clever lines, no surprises" Is that supposed to be a joke? I Wanna Start A Fire by Dabbs uses a beat that can only be described as hip hop on acid. In this song he says "Dont put your faith in ppl theyll only give you anger. One simple letter change can turn a stranger to a strangler" Their songs have clever lines such as these in every verse. Maybe you werent listening close enough. They've opened for acts such Lupe Fiasco and Jadakiss and they are recognized in the hip hop world as rising stars. Corleone is well on their way. Do your homework next time.
— Ryan on July 17, 2009